World Cup qualifying: Who will Bradley bring to the Azteca?
I really tried to care about the Gold Cup. After the group stages, I got pumped up; I told myself I was going to have the best Gold Cup commentary on the Internet. Then the United States played Panama in the quarterfinals and I fell asleep in about the 20th minute. Then the U.S. played Honduras is the semifinals and I fell asleep in about the 30th minute. Gold Cup matches were like taking NyQuil is visual form.
I did stay awake for the final and before I get into who I think Bob Bradley is going to take with him to Mexico, let me go on a little rant about El Tri’s 5-0 trouncing…
THIS JUST IN…the United States’ second team isn’t very good. This was known way before Carlos Vela showed why he will probably be the best player in Concacaf for the next 10 years. It was know when the U.S. were seconds away from losing to world power Haiti and it was reinforced when the U.S. needed extra time to beat Panama. The top 15 U.S. players can compete with any team in the world; the top 16-30 players can’t compete with any team in the top 40.
Mexico also didn’t play its best team, but they still had some of its top players: Guillermo Ochoa, Gerrardo Torrado, Giovani Dos Santos and Carlos Vela. Do you think the result might have been different if those four players didn’t play and Tim Howard, Ricardo Clark, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies did?
But I digress, the Gold Cup is, thankfully, over. In a couple weeks Mexico and the U.S. will play a match that matters (it actually only matters to Mexico, but anyway…). So after spending some time trying to think like Bob Bradley I came up with the 20 players I think he will take to the Azteca. I emphasize, these aren’t the 20 players I would call up, they’re the players I think Bradley will take.
Note: Players in bold are locks (barring injury) to go to the swine flu epicenter, while players not in bold could forseeably be left out.
Goalies
Tim Howard — As he showed in the MLS All-Star game, Howard is in midseason form. After the first loss to Brazil in the Confederations Cup, I asked: Is Howard really that good? Since then he has showed that, yes, he really is top 20 goalie. If Manchester City didn’t get Shay Given in Janurary I think Howard could have been part of the City revolution.
Brad Guzan — The reason why Guzan isn’t in bold is because I think it’s possible Bradley might try to win some points with Aston Villa coach Martin O’Neil by not having Guzan fly across the Atlantic so he could sit on the bench. It really is pointless so it’s possible someone like Zach Thornton could get a call up.
But when it comes to next year’s World Cup, it should take two, not one injury for Guzan to become the U.S.’s starting goalie. Let me explain…
It’s early May 2010 and Howard just blew out his knee on a horrific play, forcing him to miss the World Cup. If this happens, U.S. soccer should do WHATEVER IT TAKES to get Brad Friedel out of international retirement. When I say WHATEVER IT TAKES, I mean it. Change Columbus Crew Stadium to Brad Friedel Field, have Barack Obama call Friedel telling him to “make this sacrafice for his country”, get the president of Harvard to reserve two spots for Friedel’s daughters, offer him hundreads of thousands of dollars illegally. Like I said, WHATEVER IT TAKES.
The drop off from Howard to Guzan is massive considering Guzan hasn’t played a meaningful match since, well, ever. There is almost no drop off from Friedel to Howard and some would argue Friedel is better (I’m not one of those people). It would be refreshing to know that U.S. soccer is already wooing Friedel just in case. Unfortunately, I strongly doubt it.
Defenders
Oguchi Onyewu — He sure didn’t look “A.C. Milan quality” during the World Football Challenge, but it’s preseason and preseason doesn’t matter. Once the season starts, Onyewu will take Italy by storm and Milan fans will forget who that Maldini fellow was. Right? There is no way Onyewu will buckle under the pressure of going from Standard Liege to one of the biggest club in the world. Right? Sure, no American has ever made it in Italy but someone has to sooner or later and Onyewu is that guy. Right?
Jay DeMerit — He’s got to be a starter against Mexico but I can so see Bradley convincing himself he needs to start the ‘captain’ Bocanagra in the middle. DeMerit is way more consistent than Boca and is simply better. I’m slightly surprised a bigger club hasn’t tried to swipe him from Watford this summer.
Carlos Bocanagra — How bad is Landon Donovan’s leadership qualities that Carlos Bocanagra is the captain of this team? Donovan is a top 50 player in the world and Bocanagra might not be a top 1,000 player. I think Donovan won his teammates over after his performance in the Confederations Cup, but just the fact that Donovan couldn’t win the captianacy over a below-average defender is embarrassing. Maybe Bocanagra is the most talented motivational speaker since Martin Luther King Jr., but even if he is I think it’s time to hand over the arm band. Anyway, I think Bocanagra will be at left back at the Azteca.
Jonathan Spector — I have two questions I’m dying to know but can’t answer:
1) Is Spector a better center back than he is a right back?
2) Can Spector play left back better than any other American?
I’ve never seen Spector play center back or left back (although he has) so I can’t personally answer either question. If someone has an opinion on this, please share. It seems like a no-brainer Spector will be the starting right back, especially considering Cherundolo has barely played in recent months and Spector was one of the best Americans at the Confederations Cup.
Steve Cherundolo — I spent a lot of time debating with myself if Cherundolo should be a lock or not (O.K. I spent 30 seconds thinking about it) but even though Cherundolo hasn’t played much recently it’s hard to see how Bradley could leave him out since the U.S. has so little depth on defense. He’s played in this game before and has historically been one of the best U.S. defenders, so unless Hannover demands he stays he should be in Mexico City.
Jonathan Bornstein — He actually played pretty well against Honduras in the U.S.’s last qualifier but looked like crap in the Confederations Cup. But Bradley likes him. When the U.S. needed to stop the Brazil onslaught in the Confederations Cup final, Bradley turned to Bornstein. Shockingly, it didn’t work. The most likely player picked over Bornstein is Heath Pearce.
Chad Marshall — It’s probably between Marshall and Danny Califf, but even though I think Bradley rates Califf slightly higher I don’t think Bradley will have him travel from Denmark so he can sit on the bench. Marshall was adequete in the Gold Cup (not counting the last 45 minutes) and some more experience with the national team can’t hurt.
Frankie Hejduk — If I was the national team coach Hedjuk’s international career would be over. But Bradley likes him and Hejduk probably extended his national team career thanks to the final 10 minutes against El Salvador. I just hope Bradley doesn’t convince himself that Hejduk should start. I could see Bradley making the following arguement:
Hejduk is the most experienced player we have. He’s fit, so he should be able to handle the altitude. He’s a hard worker and will bring energy to the team.
One problem though — he sucks.
Midfielders
Landon Donovan — Rarely, at the age of 27, does a good player step up his game noticeably, but that’s exactly what Donovan is doing at the club and international level. The rumors of him going to Livorno are strange because he’s too good for Livorno. I think his game is perfect for Spain and a club like Athletico Madrid seems ideal. He will have to be at his best for the U.S. to have a chance in Mexico.
Clint Dempsey — If Grant Wahl is reading this, may I strongly suggest a Sports Illustrated feature story on Clint Dempsey. I think he’s the most interesting U.S. player. Born in East Texas, went to college in South Carolina, enjoys rapping, plays with a confidence\arrogance unmatched by any player in U.S. history, has been the most successful U.S. midfielder in England ever and is very emotional (sobbing after the Brazil loss). What makes this guy tick? What does he do in his free time in London? Is he extremely cocky or incredibly insecure? Or both? Someone needs to write this story!
Michael Bradley — Must stop Carlos Vela. That should be Michael Bradley’s job against Mexico but I tend to doubt the elder Bradley will man-mark Vela with his son, though he should. He’s the only player who could do the job (Ricardo Clark has no chance).
I still wonder how the Confederations Cup final would have went if Bradley played. The U.S. is such a better team when he’s in the center of the field. In 12 months, I think people will start saying Bradley is the best central midfielder the U.S. has ever had.
Benny Feilhaber — Feilhaber fans are going to have a heart attack after reading this, but the difference between Feilhaber and Kyle Beckerman is small. Feilhaber is slightly better because he’s capable of making passes which Beckerman isn’t creative enough to try, but I think Beckerman is a more consistent.
On the plus side, Feilhaber did score a goal in the Danish Superliga, which I think was his first goal in a competitive match since the U.S. beat Mexico in the Gold Cup two years ago. His team, AGF, is at the top of the table, starting the season 2-0-0.
Ricardo Clark — Though Donovan is too good for Livorno, Clark isn’t good enough; that’s where he’s headed in January and I think it could be a disaster. In Serie A, keeping possession is critical and Clark is terrible at keeping possession. This isn’t going to end well. If Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones and Maurice Edu are healthy next summer, I don’t think Clark is going to South Africa. But he will start against Mexico.
Stuart Holden — I’m not going to make him a lock because it’s within the realm of possibility Bradley could call up Sacha Klijestan or Jose Francisco Torres instead of Holden (there’s no way Freddy Adu or DaMarcus Beasley makes this team, right?). That said, it’s hard to imagine Holden not making the team after his performance in the Gold Cup. He even deserves serious consideration for the starting 11 but will most likely come in off the bench.
Jose Francisco Torres — Bradley seems to like Torres slightly more than Adu, so if he calls up seven midfielders I expect Torres to be No. 7. He plays in Mexico and he shouldn’t be intimidated, but what if he scores a 90th minute winner and Mexico doesn’t advance to the World Cup. He would be hated, maybe even tried for treason. In all seriousness, if Torres plays in this match and the U.S. wins, I think his career in the Mexican League is essentially over.
Forwards
Jozy Altidore — Since he hasn’t be loaned, I’m assuming Villareal want to keep him for the season. The problem is Villareal already have three very good forwards in Giuseppe Rossi, Nilmar and Joseba Llorente. Altidore would not be a starter and would be lucky to get 20 games. I’m still hoping for a loan deal to a weaker team in La Liga or the English Premier League (Bolton seems like the perfect fit), but at this point it might not happen.
When it comes to the Mexico match, he’s got to start. The question is will he have a partner?
Charlie Davies — The biggest decision Bradley has is if he should start Davies. I’m not sure what he should do. Do you put in five midfielders to try and clog up the field or do you field your best team possible, which means starting Davies with Altidore. It’s a tough one, but I think five midfielders is the way to go. I’m sure I’ll change my mind 10 times between now and Aug. 12.
Brian Ching — In his 41 appearances with the national team, Ching has scored 10 goals with nine of them coming at home and none of them have been against a top 50 team. If the U.S. is down one and Bradley puts Ching in for Altidore you might as well turn off the television.
Just misses
Danny Califf — Could easily be selected over Chad Marshall.
Heath Pearce — Does Bradley like Bornstein of Pearce more? That’s what it comes down to.
Conor Casey — The most likely scenario for Casey to be in Mexico is if Bradley take only seven defenders (no Hejduk), opening up a spot of Casey up top. But is it really worth having both Ching and Casey on the bench?
Possible, but unlikely
Troy Perkins — Maybe he really impressed Bradley during the Gold Cup; didn’t do a whole lot for me.
Zach Thornton — If Bradley doesn’t want his backup goalie to fly 5,000 miles.
Jimmy Conrad — Bradley might like him more than Marshall.
Freddy Adu — If he sneaks his way onto this team he’s going to be on the World Cup squad no matter what.
Sacha Kljestan — Bradley could see him as the ideal player to bring on late in the game if the U.S. has a lead. It’s a stretch, I know.
Kyle Beckerman — The most underrated American soccer player alive. He’s the only player on the “possible, but unlikely” list that I might pick if I was the coach.
Robbie Rodgers — The U.S. are lacking wingers and it could be tempting to bring Rodgers to Mexico. But, Bob, think about this logically for one second. What are the chances Rodgers plays well off the bench? Yeah, see, leave him home.
DaMarcus Beasley — Same as above. Beasley’s international career might be over.
Eddie Johnson — It looks like he is going to stay with Fulham this year and he did score a goal in preseason. Rather see him than Casey.
Long shots
Marvell Wynne — His match against Costa Rica might have sent him back three years with the national team.
Pablo Mastroeni — Bradley dropped him for the Confederations Cup and I don’t think he’s ever coming back.
Bobby Convey — The best American soccer player everyone forgot about.
Santino Quaranta — The most likely player to make the team of the long shots, but there’s no way, right? Other people like him more than me, but if he made this team I would lose my head.
Davy Arnaud — I sure hope not.

Shawn Gillogly said,
I think the US should go with the 4-2-2-2 for the match vs Mexico. And that would put Davies in. To me Mexico is weakest when they have to respond to pressure, best when they have the freedom to play. A 4-2-3-1 as Bradley would employ it is probably too timid to play in Mexico City for 90 mins.
I agree about Beckerman, btw. I’ve seen a lot of him from when I used to go to Colorado Rapids games when we lived in Denver. He’s a quality destroyer who learned from Pablo well how to play the position and has a better gastank than he ever had. The only problem is he’s playing the US’s deepest position, and it will get deeper on Oct 2nd. So he’s strictly B team.
I think Spector *is* our best left back option right now. Especially since there’s not a big drop in quality between him and Cherundolo, but there is between him and whoever you want to put at LB. I’m not sure this remains true once Castillo becomes eligible, however.
I agree with your list of MFs, which is bad, because I think they’re too similar. He needs something like a creative bench option in that list (I’d say Torres) but he won’t bring one.
I think Ching at this point is great for 15mins when you want to destroy a match. I think he had qualities that the other forwards do not. But I do not think he had enough to be the starter. And I agree, you don’t bring him on if you NEED a goal.
Bradley will bring Kljestan. He’s the only person on earth who rates him. But he…will…bring…not-special-K.
Creaven said,
NOTE: THIS IS FROM BILL, HE WROTE THIS COMMENT ON THE RANDOM GOLD CUP THOUGHTS POST.
In light of the Gold Cup final debacle, it would be interesting to see some thoughts on what it means to the USA with the big WC qualifier coming up in Azteca on August 12. As usual, I’ll offer my two cents on the topic.
The horrid result came from an utter and complete collapse of the US team in a ten-minute span during the second half. More than anything, this result calls into question the “fighting spirit” of the side that Bradley fielded. It also amplifies the already grave concerns about Bradley’s ability to manage a match. It made two straight finals where the USA crumbled in the second half. It seems that we have problems with tactical adjustments, fitness and mentality. Bradley is the only common element and should be accountable. It is also clear that no such accountability will be forthcoming.
We already knew that the Gold Cup defenders for the USA were suspect and the talents of Vela and Del Santos shredded them. I believe that beyond Gooch and Demerit we are weak at defense, lacking any outside backs that really rise to the standard necessary to make a decent WC run. We have an awesome goalkeeper to bolster the lackluster defending to our credit.
Again, the USA gets hurt by the referee. I agree that it was a soft penalty, but it was a penalty within the laws of the game. Some American fans claim conspiracy, but I’d blame naïveté on the part of the US players. We’ve seen this problem far too often, and the US players are naïve about the game, which has hurt this team fatally at the Olympics, and Confederations Cup before. Again, its our training and coaching that has failed to provide schooling on how to avoid getting stung by the officiating.
Bradley also showed his tendency to play a direct (long ball) style to our detriment. Finally, against Mexico, the US gifted possession to their opponents and paid for it. Ching played and played despite being almost uniformly ineffective. Ching is far better than Casey, but neither offers the team anything we need. The approach favored by Bradley is an abysmal throwback to the bygone era of big brutish target men who can hold the ball up and defenders who can get stuck in or clear the ball to row Z. The time for these tactics to go, they should not represent the USA.
The embarrassing loss may have been by a US “C” team, but a humiliating 5-0 loss on the home soil is something to pay attention to. Losing 8-0 in two straight second halves of finals is another thing. The continued adherence to stale tactics is yet another. US Soccer doesn’t seem to see any of this as a problem. August 12 will provide one more data point: was beating Spain a fluke or progress? Can we do well in South Africa next summer? Is Bob Bradley up to the task?
Rex said,
I think Clark is a MUST start vs Mexico. Clark is too good at breaking up attacks, possession and rhythm (somestimes even for BOTH teams). It a hostile place like Azteca, USA needs a guy who can disrupt, no matter what he costs the team offensively. If you can get to 65min all square thanks to Clark, you can bring in Feilhaber, Torres or Holden.
For this same reason i think Clark will go to South Africa. He is too valuable at bring down the quality of the game. It may not be pretty but it equals wins.
World Cup qualifying: Who will Bradley bring to the Azteca? « Scissors Kick said,
[...] World Cup qualifying: Who will Bradley bring to the Azteca? “I really tried to care about the Gold Cup. After the group stages, I got pumped up; I told myself I was going to have the best Gold Cup commentary on the Internet. Then the United States played Panama in the quarterfinals and I fell asleep in about the 20th minute. Then the U.S. played Honduras is the semifinals and I fell asleep in about the 30th minute. Gold Cup matches were like taking NyQuil is visual form.” (Intelligent Soccer) [...]
Beaumont Livingston said,
It has to be the same lineup that beat Spain, right?
Bill said,
Beaumont,
One might think, but my guess is that Bradley will “tweak” it. The team needs Ching’s “experience” and ability to hold the ball up.
Bradley really believes this crap. Ching does have experience and we all appreciate it, but he is well-suited to a style of play that the USA needs to sunset. They have tried playing this style with Altidore and the results are awful. The fact that Casey even played in SA means Ching will start since he is astonishingly better than Casey. The bottom line is that we’re stuck with Bradley and in all likelyhood we will back our way into SA.
If Ching starts we’ll lose (and the best possible outcome will be a nil-nil draw requiring Mexico to play poorly and be unlucky).
Bill said,
Here is the 20 man roster, a few suprises.
GOALKEEPERS: Brad Guzan (Aston Villa, England), Tim Howard (Everton, England)
DEFENDERS: Carlos Bocanegra (Rennes, France), Jonathan Bornstein (Chivas USA), Steve Cherundolo (Hannover, Germany), Jay DeMerit (Watford, England), Chad Marshall (Columbus Crew), Oguchi Onyewu (AC Milan, Italy), Jonathan Spector (West Ham, England)
MIDFIELDERS: Michael Bradley (Borussia Mönchengladbach, Germany), Ricardo Clark (Houston Dynamo), Clint Dempsey (Fulham, England), Benny Feilhaber (AGF Aarhus, Denmark), Stuart Holden (Houston Dynamo), José Francisco Torres (Pachuca, Mexico)
FORWARDS: Jozy Altidore (Hull City, England), Conor Casey (Colorado Rapids), Brian Ching (Houston Dynamo), Charlie Davies (Sochaux, France), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy)
Jose said,
Bill I have to agree with you on Ching. We definitely need to get away from that style of play. I can see him being included in the squad as a sub but if he’s the sub and Jozy and Davies start, why do we need Conor Casey. Are we really gonna see him and Ching in the game together at any point. For our sake I hope not. If it were a tournament and you wanna take injury into account then maybe I could see it. But this is one game and he’s not getting in ahead of the other 3 so I just don’t get it. To me he is the biggest suprise here. Adu wouldn’t get on the field so it’s best to leave him with his club team to try to earn playing time. I think that’s a wise move. Holden I assume is included for his potential as a winger and to give him the experience of the atmosphere I doubt he’ll see the pitch. I think Bob Bradley see’s him as insurance on the wing since the midfield is loaded with Dempsey, Donovan, Bradley, and J. Jones the probable starters in SA. Edu, Feilhaber, Torres and even Clark would all play ahead of him in the middle so depth on the wing is where I see him possibly earning a spot over Kjlestan. Otherwise pretty predictable.
Creaven said,
First, let me pat myself on the back for getting 19 of the 20 players. I had Hejduk over Casey, but I did write it was possible Casey would be called up instead of Hedjuk. Therefore, I get an A-
.
Bill,
Bradley won’t start Ching. Ching didn’t show much in the Gold Cup and Altidore showed a lot in the Confederations Cup. Bradley isn’t Jose Mourniho but he isn’t a complete idiot either.
Jose,
It’s important to remember that although he called up 20 only 18 will suit up. So I think Bradley called up Casey just in case one of the other three forwards gets food poisoning the night before. If they’re all healthy, I expect Casey to not even be listed as a sub (alnog with Torres.
Beaumont Livingston said,
This game is going to be difficult – they can’t play against Mexico like they did Spain and Brazil, b/c the same thing will happen that did against Brazil – that heat, that air, that altitude, someone is going to have to possess the ball, otherwise by the 60th minute, Michael Bradley, Landon Donovan and Ricardo Clark might need an IV.
Shawn Gillogly said,
Beaumont,
Mexico isn’t Brazil. Mexico has never shown the heart to come back under pressure. In fact, putting Mexico under pressure has consistently been the best way to make *them* crack. And it wasn’t the counterattacking tactic that cost us against Brazil, it was the failure to bring in someone creative when Feilhaber ran out of gas, and Bradley not deciding what to do until it was too late.
Parking the bus would not have been the wrong strategy if he had done it from the 50th minute. Negative? Sure. But a tournament final isn’t about beauty, and neither is a hostile WC qualifier. If there’s a choice between winning or drawing ugly and playing pretty, you take the point. Especially since even a draw will cripple Mexico’s chances.
If the US scores first, the very things Mexico is counting on will turn against them. When the US got the draw in the 98 qualifying, that was exactly what happened, as by the end of the match the Azteca fans were cheering the US for their effort.
If anything, the smog and the altitude mitigate *against* trying to play beautiful soccer and would encourage the counterattack, since you don’t want to be caught out chasing the ball. All the pressure in this match is on Mexico. The US should play like it. There’s enough quality in this side to get a result if they play smart.
Beaumont Livingston said,
Anyone else notice that the Bochum game that was broadcast “live” (as the graphic said) on GOL TV Sunday was delayed by close to an hour?
Ryan said,
Correction to Creaven – Bradley is a complete idiot otherwise Casey would be no closer to Azteca than me. I’m really struggling to recall a tactical (in game) move he has made as a coach that has paid off. Typically, his subs are late and ineffective, granted part of that is the fault of the player. Our best hope is an Italian style victory – a 1-0 ugly win with a goal off a set piece or fluke play. If the US concedes an early goal as we have in too many qualifiers, this could get ugly fast.
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